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by "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 8, 2008 at 08:02 PM

Ace  wrote  on Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:09:26 +0200:

 ??>> Shankar  wrote  on Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:27:40 GMT:
 ??>>
 ??>>>> Certainly in the US, it is cassia which is most often
 ??>>>> sold as cinnamon. I saw the same confusion in India,
 ??>>>> where bags of cassia were called cinnamom. In the UK I
 ??>>>> have seen cassia labelled as cinnamon and vice versa.
 ??>>>> Waaza
 ??>>
 SB>>> Pretty much everywhere in the world cassia is sold as
 SB>>> cinnamon. Perhaps Sri Lanka is different.

 ??>> "Cinnamon" is an accepted English word. By the rules of
 ??>> usage unfortunately, what the vast majority of English
 ??>> speakers call "cinnamon" is cinnamon despite what purists
 ??>> may feel about it :-) I think there was a discussion about
 ??>> this previously and cassia and cinnamon are from different
 ??>> parts of the plant. I will have to go to Gernot Katzer's
 ??>> web pages and check what he says. I have never found him
 ??>> wrong on anything about spices. However, I wonder where I
 ??>> could find both cassia and cinnamon, as you describe them,
 ??>> to make a comparison?

 A> I know that I've got both at home, both sourced in the UK,
 A> and they're quite different. The one labelled cinnamon is
 A> the same as the stuff I can find in the US and in the rest
 A> of Europe, called Cannelle or Zimt or whatever, and much
 A> used in Apple pie, mulled wint et al. The other one,
 A> labelled Cassia, is vaguely similar but much less aromatic,
 A> and I thought it was actually from a different plant.

 A> I don't see where, or how, this confusion has crept in, as
 A> cinnamon is cinnamon the world over, as far as I can tell.

I went to a spice dealer (Penzey's near where I live) and was 
given a very extensive tutorial on varieties of "cinnamon", 
including smelling the ground spices in bulk and handling the 
bark. I could not decide which I preferred but I could tell the 
differences even if I was recovering from a cold. I'm going to 
have to try using both separately in a recipe that depends on 
"cinnamon" (which I am told is usually cassia in the US and 
Mexico, if not in Europe.) According to Gernot Katzer ( 
http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/
), even if they are 
different, they are related: Cinnamonum Cassia and Cinnamonum 
Zeylanica.
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: 
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
 




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