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Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'

by "sumbeotch at scumbum dot cum" <youwantmyanus@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 16, 2008 at 06:01 PM

this is idealism.


if you don't eat the meat...  the meat gets processed into additives, 
adjuncts and other chemicals -  ingredients for commercial food product
and 
other items.

are you that inept?


it is NOT that easy dear.



no wonder people can't take us vegans seriously!

a war against my own kind is worse than the one between the meatatarians
and 
myself.




don't you read labels?

research them...   you'll find out most of that **** they add to foods
comes 
from an animal!


you do realize that many vegan foods have casein in it?   you know that 
comes from an animal?

that's just the wee tiny part of a very big pile.


"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:DbSdnYhnkofWCbHVnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> All "vegans" begin their belief in "veganism" by
> subscribing to a logically fallacious argument:
>
>       If I eat meat, I cause harm to animals
>
>       I do not eat meat;
>
>       Therefore, I do not cause harm to animals.
>
> This argument contains a classic fallacy:  Denying the
> Antecedent.  It is obvious there are other ways to
> cause harm to animals.  The one that is much discussed
> in alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/talk.politics.animals
> is collateral animal deaths in agriculture.  Uncounted
> millions of animals are slaughtered in the course of
> vegetable agriculture, either unintentionally as a
> result of mechanized farming, or intentionally by pest
> control.  Once "vegans" recognize the fact of animal
> CDs, the fallacy of the argument becomes clear.
>
> However, we still observe "vegans" spending tremendous
> time and mental energy trying to get rid of the last
> trace of animal parts from their diet.  I call this the
> Search for Micrograms, i.e., micrograms of animal parts
> in food.  The idea, of course, is to determine if there
> are any micrograms of animal parts in a food item, and
> if so, exclude it from their diet.
>
> Not long ago, in alt.food.vegan, a "vegan" posted a
> comment to the effect that canned black olives are in a
> juice that contains octopus ink, to make the juice
> dark.  She wasn't able to substantiate the rumor - it
> smacked of a very narrow, "vegan"-oriented urban legend
> - and none of the other participants seemed especially
> eager to eliminate canned black olives from their
> diets.  Nonetheless, it provided an excellent example
> of the bizarre, obsessive Search for Micrograms.
>
> Meanwhile, with only rare exceptions, the observation
> that "vegans" do virtually *nothing* to reduce the
> animal collateral death toll caused by the production
> and distribution of the foods they personally eat goes
> all but unchallenged.  What little challenge is mounted
> is not credible.  One "vegan" poster in a.a.e.v. and
> t.p.a., one of the more egregious sophists in the
> groups, claims that she is doing "all she can" by
> buying "locally produced" fruit and vegetables - as if
> the geographic locale of production has anything to do
> with the care farmers might take to ensure they don't
> kill animals.  It simply is not credible.
>
> How, then, to explain the bizarre Search for
> Micrograms?  It is as if, despite some of them knowing
> that the original argument is fallacious, "vegans"
> *still* accept it.
>
> I think it is pretty much a given that "veganism" is a
> form of religion.  Although "vegans" prefer to dwell on
> what they call "ethics", their devotion to the
> religious injunction - don't eat animals - gives them
> away.  In that light, the obsessive Search for
> Micrograms takes on the character of a religious
> ritual; sort of like performing the stations of the
> cross, or reciting a prayer 20 or 30 times.
 




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FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 12:49:13 
Re: FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 13:38:41 
Re: FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:22:01 
Rudy Canoza: WRONG AGAIN
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 17:10:02 
Re: Rudy Canoza: WRONG AGAIN
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:22:18 
Re: Larry Forti, *failed* engineer
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 18:20:54 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:21:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 18:21:23 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-15 23:10:11 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-17 21:29:33 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-17 20:08:34 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 14:00:44 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 14:01:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-18 22:05:17 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 20:31:55 
Re: Larry Forti, *failed* engineer
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 19:38:10 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 19:39:01 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-15 23:09:25 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-16 18:01:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 13:16:49 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 14:01:02 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 14:02:44 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-16 13:42:21 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 14:16:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-16 15:55:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 21:21:39 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-17 01:05:32 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-18 06:25:49 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
BooBoolane@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-19 13:44:33 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-19 16:58:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"pearl" <tea  2008-05-20 12:58:37 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:55:14 
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed int
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:59:49 
Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 14:10:45 
Re: No challenge - GooFuckwit David Harrison does not *ever* pre
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 08:35:25 
Re: Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-21 15:48:34 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 13:24:37 
Re: Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 10:40:27 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-22 21:04:15 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 17:18:06 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 16:50:14 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:18:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:54:34 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:20:24 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 13:55:24 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 13:27:46 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 17:09:51 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 16:49:42 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 10:41:05 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:53:37 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-19 14:14:24 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-21 18:36:56 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-23 02:09:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
crisology <crisology@[  2008-05-24 03:05:11 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-26 13:04:58 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-26 10:24:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:12:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:02:08 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-29 15:17:35 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-29 12:41:07 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
crisology <crisology@[  2008-05-26 22:27:10 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-27 08:34:50 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:15:45 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:11:12 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:13:33 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:10:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-29 15:17:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-29 12:49:38 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-03 16:51:09 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 14:22:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"the Bede" <  2008-06-03 17:39:53 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 15:49:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"the Bede" <  2008-06-03 17:51:59 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 15:54:39 

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