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Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'

by "Mr.Smartypants" <anybody23@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 07:39 PM

On May 16, 11:21=A0am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> sumbeotch at s***bum dot *** wrote:
>
> > not all vegans are idealistic ****tards....
>
> They are.
>


You left out IM****TANT MATERIAL, Boobs.





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> > "Rudy Canoza" <pi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >news:DbSdnYhnkofWCbHVnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> All "vegans" begin their belief in "veganism" by
> >> subscribing to a logically fallacious argument:
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> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 If I eat meat, I cause harm to animals
>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 I do not eat meat;
>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 Therefore, I do not cause harm to animals.
>
> >> This argument contains a classic fallacy: =A0Denying the
> >> Antecedent. =A0It is obvious there are other ways to
> >> cause harm to animals. =A0The one that is much discussed
> >> in alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/talk.politics.animals
> >> is collateral animal deaths in agriculture. =A0Uncounted
> >> millions of animals are slaughtered in the course of
> >> vegetable agriculture, either unintentionally as a
> >> result of mechanized farming, or intentionally by pest
> >> control. =A0Once "vegans" recognize the fact of animal
> >> CDs, the fallacy of the argument becomes clear.
>
> >> However, we still observe "vegans" spending tremendous
> >> time and mental energy trying to get rid of the last
> >> trace of animal parts from their diet. =A0I call this the
> >> Search for Micrograms, i.e., micrograms of animal parts
> >> in food. =A0The idea, of course, is to determine if there
> >> are any micrograms of animal parts in a food item, and
> >> if so, exclude it from their diet.
>
> >> Not long ago, in alt.food.vegan, a "vegan" posted a
> >> comment to the effect that canned black olives are in a
> >> juice that contains octopus ink, to make the juice
> >> dark. =A0She wasn't able to substantiate the rumor - it
> >> smacked of a very narrow, "vegan"-oriented urban legend
> >> - and none of the other participants seemed especially
> >> eager to eliminate canned black olives from their
> >> diets. =A0Nonetheless, it provided an excellent example
> >> of the bizarre, obsessive Search for Micrograms.
>
> >> Meanwhile, with only rare exceptions, the observation
> >> that "vegans" do virtually *nothing* to reduce the
> >> animal collateral death toll caused by the production
> >> and distribution of the foods they personally eat goes
> >> all but unchallenged. =A0What little challenge is mounted
> >> is not credible. =A0One "vegan" poster in a.a.e.v. and
> >> t.p.a., one of the more egregious sophists in the
> >> groups, claims that she is doing "all she can" by
> >> buying "locally produced" fruit and vegetables - as if
> >> the geographic locale of production has anything to do
> >> with the care farmers might take to ensure they don't
> >> kill animals. =A0It simply is not credible.
>
> >> How, then, to explain the bizarre Search for
> >> Micrograms? =A0It is as if, despite some of them knowing
> >> that the original argument is fallacious, "vegans"
> >> *still* accept it.
>
> >> I think it is pretty much a given that "veganism" is a
> >> form of religion. =A0Although "vegans" prefer to dwell on
> >> what they call "ethics", their devotion to the
> >> religious injunction - don't eat animals - gives them
> >> away. =A0In that light, the obsessive Search for
> >> Micrograms takes on the character of a religious
> >> ritual; sort of like performing the stations of the
> >> cross, or reciting a prayer 20 or 30 times.- Hide quoted text -
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FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 12:49:13 
Re: FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 13:38:41 
Re: FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:22:01 
Rudy Canoza: WRONG AGAIN
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 17:10:02 
Re: Rudy Canoza: WRONG AGAIN
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:22:18 
Re: Larry Forti, *failed* engineer
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 18:20:54 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:21:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 18:21:23 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-15 23:10:11 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-17 21:29:33 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-17 20:08:34 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 14:00:44 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 14:01:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-18 22:05:17 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 20:31:55 
Re: Larry Forti, *failed* engineer
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 19:38:10 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 19:39:01 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-15 23:09:25 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-16 18:01:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 13:16:49 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 14:01:02 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 14:02:44 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-16 13:42:21 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 14:16:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-16 15:55:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 21:21:39 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-17 01:05:32 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-18 06:25:49 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
BooBoolane@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-19 13:44:33 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-19 16:58:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"pearl" <tea  2008-05-20 12:58:37 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:55:14 
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed int
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:59:49 
Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 14:10:45 
Re: No challenge - GooFuckwit David Harrison does not *ever* pre
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 08:35:25 
Re: Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-21 15:48:34 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 13:24:37 
Re: Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 10:40:27 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-22 21:04:15 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 17:18:06 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 16:50:14 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:18:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:54:34 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:20:24 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 13:55:24 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 13:27:46 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 17:09:51 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 16:49:42 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 10:41:05 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:53:37 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-19 14:14:24 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-21 18:36:56 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-23 02:09:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
crisology <crisology@[  2008-05-24 03:05:11 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-26 13:04:58 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-26 10:24:18 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:12:30 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:02:08 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-29 15:17:35 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-29 12:41:07 
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crisology <crisology@[  2008-05-26 22:27:10 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-27 08:34:50 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:15:45 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:11:12 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:13:33 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:10:18 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-29 15:17:55 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-29 12:49:38 
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dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-03 16:51:09 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 14:22:29 
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"the Bede" <  2008-06-03 17:39:53 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 15:49:18 
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"the Bede" <  2008-06-03 17:51:59 
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 15:54:39 

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