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Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'

by Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 06:21 PM

sumbeotch at s***bum dot *** wrote:
> not all vegans are idealistic ****tards....

They are.


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> "Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:DbSdnYhnkofWCbHVnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> All "vegans" begin their belief in "veganism" by
>> subscribing to a logically fallacious argument:
>>
>>       If I eat meat, I cause harm to animals
>>
>>       I do not eat meat;
>>
>>       Therefore, I do not cause harm to animals.
>>
>> This argument contains a classic fallacy:  Denying the
>> Antecedent.  It is obvious there are other ways to
>> cause harm to animals.  The one that is much discussed
>> in alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/talk.politics.animals
>> is collateral animal deaths in agriculture.  Uncounted
>> millions of animals are slaughtered in the course of
>> vegetable agriculture, either unintentionally as a
>> result of mechanized farming, or intentionally by pest
>> control.  Once "vegans" recognize the fact of animal
>> CDs, the fallacy of the argument becomes clear.
>>
>> However, we still observe "vegans" spending tremendous
>> time and mental energy trying to get rid of the last
>> trace of animal parts from their diet.  I call this the
>> Search for Micrograms, i.e., micrograms of animal parts
>> in food.  The idea, of course, is to determine if there
>> are any micrograms of animal parts in a food item, and
>> if so, exclude it from their diet.
>>
>> Not long ago, in alt.food.vegan, a "vegan" posted a
>> comment to the effect that canned black olives are in a
>> juice that contains octopus ink, to make the juice
>> dark.  She wasn't able to substantiate the rumor - it
>> smacked of a very narrow, "vegan"-oriented urban legend
>> - and none of the other participants seemed especially
>> eager to eliminate canned black olives from their
>> diets.  Nonetheless, it provided an excellent example
>> of the bizarre, obsessive Search for Micrograms.
>>
>> Meanwhile, with only rare exceptions, the observation
>> that "vegans" do virtually *nothing* to reduce the
>> animal collateral death toll caused by the production
>> and distribution of the foods they personally eat goes
>> all but unchallenged.  What little challenge is mounted
>> is not credible.  One "vegan" poster in a.a.e.v. and
>> t.p.a., one of the more egregious sophists in the
>> groups, claims that she is doing "all she can" by
>> buying "locally produced" fruit and vegetables - as if
>> the geographic locale of production has anything to do
>> with the care farmers might take to ensure they don't
>> kill animals.  It simply is not credible.
>>
>> How, then, to explain the bizarre Search for
>> Micrograms?  It is as if, despite some of them knowing
>> that the original argument is fallacious, "vegans"
>> *still* accept it.
>>
>> I think it is pretty much a given that "veganism" is a
>> form of religion.  Although "vegans" prefer to dwell on
>> what they call "ethics", their devotion to the
>> religious injunction - don't eat animals - gives them
>> away.  In that light, the obsessive Search for
>> Micrograms takes on the character of a religious
>> ritual; sort of like performing the stations of the
>> cross, or reciting a prayer 20 or 30 times. 
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FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 12:49:13 
Re: FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 13:38:41 
Re: FAQ: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:22:01 
Rudy Canoza: WRONG AGAIN
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-15 17:10:02 
Re: Rudy Canoza: WRONG AGAIN
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:22:18 
Re: Larry Forti, *failed* engineer
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 18:20:54 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-15 21:21:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-15 18:21:23 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-15 23:10:11 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-17 21:29:33 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-17 20:08:34 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 14:00:44 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 14:01:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-18 22:05:17 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 20:31:55 
Re: Larry Forti, *failed* engineer
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 19:38:10 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-15 19:39:01 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-15 23:09:25 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"sumbeotch at scumbu  2008-05-16 18:01:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 13:16:49 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 14:01:02 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-18 14:02:44 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-16 13:42:21 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 14:16:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-16 15:55:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"leechap" <l  2008-05-16 21:21:39 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-05-17 01:05:32 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-18 06:25:49 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
BooBoolane@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-19 13:44:33 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-19 16:58:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"pearl" <tea  2008-05-20 12:58:37 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:55:14 
Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed int
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:59:49 
Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 14:10:45 
Re: No challenge - GooFuckwit David Harrison does not *ever* pre
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 08:35:25 
Re: Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-21 15:48:34 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 13:24:37 
Re: Challenging the Goober to oppose the gross mi$nomer "ar"
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 10:40:27 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-22 21:04:15 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 17:18:06 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 16:50:14 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:18:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:54:34 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-20 07:20:24 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 13:55:24 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 13:27:46 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Laurie <no@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 17:09:51 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-21 16:49:42 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 10:41:05 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:53:37 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-19 14:14:24 
Re: Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, lying cracker - finally shamed
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-21 18:36:56 
Re: Challenging the [snip cracker GooFuckwit bullshit]
"Mr.Smartypants"  2008-05-23 02:09:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
crisology <crisology@[  2008-05-24 03:05:11 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-26 13:04:58 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-26 10:24:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:12:30 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:02:08 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-29 15:17:35 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-29 12:41:07 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
crisology <crisology@[  2008-05-26 22:27:10 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-27 08:34:50 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:15:45 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:11:12 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-28 09:13:33 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-28 07:10:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-29 15:17:55 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-05-29 12:49:38 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-03 16:51:09 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 14:22:29 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"the Bede" <  2008-06-03 17:39:53 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 15:49:18 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
"the Bede" <  2008-06-03 17:51:59 
Re: The Irrational 'Search for Micrograms (of Animal Parts)'
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-06-03 15:54:39 

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