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Re: Sanitizing kitchen

by "Spod Reed" <rhalford1961@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 22, 2005 at 09:21 PM

Beeblebrox wrote:
> Spod Reed wrote:
>
> >>It makes no sense to 'sanitize' the kitchen, that just breeds better
bugs.
> >
> >
> > More Rod Speed bull****.
> >
> > Bleach and alcohol do nothing of the sort. "Better bugs" are the
result
> > of antibiotics (triclosan for instance in a cleaning product) being
> > used to kill bacteria. Bleach and alcohol kill bacteria and viruses by
> > causing physical damage. Germs have no chance to develop antibiotic
> > resistance to physical damage and thus would not "breed better bugs".
> > What a dumbass you are.
> >
>
> Nope, the dumbass with no understanding of evolution (eg: survival of
> the fittest) would be you.

Think again.

> *Any* sanitizer kills only a ****tion of germs. Let's say 1% of the germs
> are left. These are going to be the strongest, most able-to-survive
> germs of the bunch. Then these, the strongest germs, are the ones left
> to breed the next generation of germs. Along comes you with a spray
> bottle, and again you knock out all but the 1% strongest. Surely you
> know enough by now to figure out the trend, that the remaining germ
> population is getting stronger and stronger.

Nope. Disinfectants don't care how strong a germ is. They kill by
physical action. Let me repeat, PHYSICAL ACTION. That's akin to me
stepping on them, cru****ng them, tearing them apart. You are now the
one with no understanding.

"Quat-based disinfectants carry a positive charge. Bacteria, viruses
and fungi carry a negative charge. When a bacteria-laden surface is
sprayed or mopped with a disinfectant, the charge distribution of the
bacteria cell changes from negative to positive. This results in the
disruption of the bacteria cell wall and eventual death to the
microbe."

Nothing you *think* is going to change how they work. Doesn't matter
how *strong* the bacteria or virus is, physical action will still do
it's job.

Roaches may become resistant to chemical sprays, but the shoe coming
down on them will still continue to kill no matter how
chemical-resistant they become.
Getting it yet?


> You seem to think that somehow individual germs develop a resistance to
> antibiotics. This is not the case. It happens much the same as I
> described. The germs that survive are the ones with the best resistance,
>   which breed a new generation, of which only the most resistant
> survive, etc etc

Resistance has nothing to do with "physical" action.
 




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Re: Sanitizing kitchen
"Spod Reed" <  2005-09-22 21:21:14 
Re: Sanitizing kitchen
"Rod Speed" <  2005-09-23 14:41:57 

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