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Re: no clean break !!!

by irma <irma@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 17, 2008 at 03:08 PM

On Mar 17, 5:15 pm, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> i...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > Dear Nick,
> > I did my homework carefully, the milk is always the problem, we wisch
> > we could get the fresh stuff, but not possible overhere in MD, exsp.
> > for camenbert
> > fresh milk is a " must " i know but.... since all the recipes in the
> > book called for " store bough milk " because 80 percent of the
> > cheesemakers cannot get
> > fresh milk, it should work with store bought milk, otherwise they
> > would not give out the recipes in the book I guess, Yes I dissolved
> > the rennet in cold water like always
> > the starter is special made for camembert., Mesophilic Starter,  I do
> > not think this is the problem its.
> > One other thing, the recipe ask for heating the milk constant to 90 F,
> > I had it up to 120 accidential, but I do not think this is a big
> > problem, because the starter can handle this temp, any advice ?
>
> > I ordered now the liquest stronger rennet stuff with the cheesemaker,
> > and will start next weekend all over again, this has to work
> > pfff... :))
>
> > "perfection is only 100 percent "
>
> Hi Irma,
>
> I hope you're at least able to get unhomogenized milk! I came across
this
> interesting news story:
>
> "To Sell Raw Milk
> Re****ting Suzanne Collins
>
> GETTYSBURG, Pa. (WJZ) -- Lawmakers are deciding if Maryland dairy
farmers
> should be able to sell directly to the public and even sell raw,
> unpasteurized milk.
>
> Suzanne Collins re****ts it's already allowed just north of Maryland in
> Pennsylvania.
>
> Near Gettysburg, there's a dairy farm that does things the old-fa****oned
> way. Cows roam and graze, unlike at factory farms.
>
> From the milking barn, milk goes right to the processing area.  The
glass
> bottles are sold right at the farm store and even raw, unpasteurized
milk
> is available.
>
> "We were not planning on selling raw milk when we first opened the
> creamery. We had so many customers--one in four we estimated--wanted raw
> milk. We said, 'hey this is what the consumer wants, is there a safe way
w=
e
> can do it?' We researched it," said Don Everett from Apple Valley
Creamery=
..
>
> The advent of pasteurization prevented many bacterial illnesses from
milk,=

> but some people believe the healthy benefits of raw milk outweigh the
> dangers.
>
> "The lady I work with, she is all about raw milk. That's the only thing
sh=
e
> uses. She makes her own butter with it," said one consumer.
>
> Some lawmakers in Maryland are trying to legalize direct milk sales and
th=
e
> sale of raw milk here.
>
> It would be regulated carefully, as in Pennsylvania where the state
tests
> it twice a month.
>
> There are also warnings on the raw milk. People who are pregnant or with
> weak immune systems should avoid it.
>
> "The taste is much better than the stuff in the store is, I think," said
> one milk drinker.
>
> At a hearing in Annapolis, consumers and some farmers testified in favor
o=
f
> the bill, but the farmers association was worried if anyone got sick
from
> raw milk it might hurt the dairy industry.
>
> "Everything is about quality control. The bigger you get, the harder it
is=

> to control quality from one end to the other. I think smaller farmers
are
> struggling to make ends meet. I think this might be a great option for
> them," said Everett.
>
> You may have a parent or grandparent who told you milk in the old days
had=

> a layer of cream on top.  Raw milk has that, too.  Not only is it not
> pasteurized, but it's also not homogenized.
>
> At Apple Valley, they refill returned bottles and even deliver to homes
in=

> the area.
>
> A vote is expected next week on whether to allow dairy farmers to sell
raw=

> milk in Maryland.
>
> (=A9 MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)"
>
> I don't know how far Gettysburg is from you. That might be an option.
Here=

> in Southern California, we're able to get raw milk. It is sooooo good!
> Reminds me of when I was a kid. When I was at my Grandmother's, she got
ra=
w
> milk from Ohrbach (sp? it's been 60 years) Dairy.
>
> http://www.altadenadairy.com/faq.html
>
> That 120=B0 F. spike shouldn't be a problem, but probably better if you
ca=
n
> keep it below body temp (98.6). Do you use Penicillium candida and
> Penicillium camemberti to cure your cheese?
>
> My cousin and her husband live in Phoenix MD. I've enjoyed sailing on
the
> Chesapeake, eating soft shelled crab sandwiches in Annapolis and long
neck=

> clams  on St. George Island, back in the early 80's.
>
> If the book you're using has given you good results with other cheeses
(yo=
u
> mentioned that you had made Ricotta. Was that made with the whey from
your=

> Mozzarella?), then your:
>
> > ". . . since all the recipes in the book called for store bough milk
> > because 80 percent of the cheesemakers cannot get fresh milk, it
should
> > work with store bought milk, otherwise they would not give out the
> > recipes in the book I guess,"
>
> sounds reasonable. Never hurts to get a second opinion, though. I don't
> have a recommendation, but I'll ask over on alt.binaries.food. A lot of
my=

> buddies there make cheese and might have a good reference. If so, I'll
pos=
t
> it here. Meanwhile, you might check Amazon. Seeing how you do your
> homework, you probably already have done so. ;-)
>
> I like to mix Camembert and Gorgonzola for an appetizer or quesadilla.
Mmm=
!
>
> --
> Nick. Sup****t severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
The=
y
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Sup****t Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! !             ~Semper Fi~

I found there website, but there is a but, the raw milk is 2.99 1/2
gallon, this means its 6.00 a gallon, this way our homemade cheese it
gonna be
and expensive one:))
man, i believe everyboddy is looking for big profits is someone is
trying to copy there selling products pff
why does it has to be this expensive, not threatend at all, still 6
bucks a gallon they must be nuts , i will give them a call, and ask
them why,
i even want to pick it up myself !!

Irma
 




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irma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-16 12:10:19 
Re: no clean break !!!
Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-16 22:30:44 
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irma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-17 06:27:53 
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Scott <anon@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-17 10:48:08 
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Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-17 21:15:56 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-17 15:01:00 
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Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-17 23:47:36 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-17 15:08:46 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-17 17:45:56 
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Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-18 02:17:34 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-22 06:44:39 
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Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-22 21:27:23 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-23 07:27:59 
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Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-23 22:11:52 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-23 17:43:32 
Re: no clean break !!!
Nick Cramer <n_cramerS  2008-03-24 09:05:25 
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irma <irma@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-31 06:10:17 

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